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Ask The Batemaster: The Taboo of JO With Family

The reasons for this taboo involve such matters as the compromising of parental authority, and exploitation of underage guys.

QUESTION: So, what’s the big deal? My father is really cool, and he’s the one who taught me to masturbate. It was my idea, and I asked him about it. We even did it in the same room sometimes, though we never touched each other. I’m grateful for it, and we’re still good friends, in fact I really love him, though we don’t do that anymore. Was this really so wrong, like I hear?

RESPONSE: This specific subject touches into matters that are pretty much taboo on Bateworld: intergenerational incest. However, I’ll tell you honestly that quite a few men ask me about this and tell me about such personal experiences, far more often than I can openly discuss it here, given my position as an erotic activist and a sex educator. Technically, this kind of incest is usually considered both immoral and illegal, in some cases depending upon the ages involved.

The reasons for this taboo involve such matters as the compromising of parental authority, and exploitation of underage guys. Between male family members, there is not the issue of possible pregnancy, of course, still this is considered a serious transgression of the family and social order. If you were under the age of consent, the legal aspect is clear-cut, as this would definitely be considered illegal.

While I cannot condone such situations as you describe, in reality this is actually an area that is not subject to simplistic formulas to determine what is right and wrong. At the same time, I do condemn any older male seeking sexual contact with an underage fellow. Also, within the family, this is truly a different matter than with two unrelated fellows, both of legal age, even those of quite different ages. The latter situation would simply be a personal choice.

Human nature is complex, and aside from the legalities involved, an aspect that cannot easily be quantified or determined by other people is the matter of this being consensual, of how you say it was initially your request, that your relationship with your father is warm and loving. Also, this apparently did not continue for a prolonged period, but was a sort of educational and inspirational interval that he agreed to.

Your account and your question place me in an awkward position, as what you describe cannot be advocated on this site. I am not qualified to judge what is a very personal, very intimate, and very private experience. Many men tell me they have fantasized about such situations, and part of the appeal is the forbidden aspect. A fantasy is often very different from realities.

You seem to suggest that not only were you not harmed, but that you benefited. If so, you are very fortunate. In such a situation, the outcome is not always so benign. We do not live in an ideal world, and in a more ideal world, younger men of legal age could be trained by experienced and kindly older men, not related by blood, but related by sympathy, in the arts of masturbatory excellence.

I cannot give you a definitive answer, but I hope I’ve made clear some of the complex of reasons that this is not a clear-cut, easily codified matter. Legally it’s considered wrong, even criminal, while in human realities, such a situation is not so simple to assess one way or another.

The Bate Master - Bruce P. GretherBRUCE P. GRETHER is the “BateMaster”. Mr. Grether’s lifelong love of penises and masturbation has led him to achieve a level of mastery and understanding of masturbation that is at once unique and extremely rare. He is renowned for both his ability to achieve seemingly endless states of prolonged and intense masturbatory pleasure as well as his skill in passing this knowledge on to his students. Mr. Grether has made it his life’s mission to encourage men to take their practice of masturbation to new levels of personal enrichment and self-discovery.

Mr. Grether is a globally recognized masturbation activist, an accomplished masturbation coach, and a tireless facilitator of masturbation workshops. In 2001 he coined the now popular term “Mindful Masturbation”. He is the author of a best-selling book, The Secret of the Golden Phallus, plus the erotic fantasy novels

The Moontusk Chronicles. His website can be found at

A note from The Batemaster: I’m honored that the guys at Bateworld have asked me to respond to some questions from male masturbators around the world every week.

Always check with your doctor about any issues you might be experiencing with your sexual organs. Prompt diagnosis and treatment are important. This article’s purpose is to inform and entertain readers and is not a substitute for medical advice or treatment.<

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