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Ask The Batemaster: Bate Vs. Religion

All erotic enjoyment can be considered good, healthy and psychologically beneficial.

QUESTION: Seriously. I think masturbation rocks way beyond any religion! Am I evil?

RESPONSE: Not at all. With all due respect for the fact that not all religion is a negative (it sometimes provides people with a sense of identity and even some decent guidelines for behavior) unfortunately many religious teachings contain anti-pleasure, anti-sexual messages. Plenty of old superstitious taboos remain concerning not only the human enjoyment of sexuality, but specifically, our beloved pastime of masturbation

After the original inspiration of major religions, with some real value at the start, there has been a reinforcement of the beliefs with control mechanisms. One effective control mechanism most religions employ to some extent involve the codification of human sexual behavior. The engineering of “right” vs. “wrong” behaviors concerning pleasure and sex no longer aligns with current knowledge from less biased sources.

Curiously, all religious cultures now rely upon scientific medicine for most medical treatments, and for most everyday practical purposes rely upon technological processes. Religion has largely been relegated to offering so-called “explanations” of many inexplicable mysteries and uncertainties such as afterlife. Or masturbation.

Regardless of what other religious beliefs you may choose to keep, you are smart and wise to question authority and think for yourself upon matters of sexual pleasure and masturbation. So long as you behave responsibly, and do not harm anyone in the process, all erotic enjoyment can be considered good, healthy and psychologically beneficial. In fact, a man who is a happy masturbator, who can enjoy intense penis pleasure with increasing skill and dedication as he lives his life, is likely to be a happier, more balanced man who can contribute to society, and may be less likely to harm others.

Thorough enjoyment of masturbation is part of good health and sane behavior. It encourages you to take good care of yourself, and to accept full responsibility for how much ecstatic pleasure you enjoy. No other form of erotic pleasure has so much versatility and can be given to yourself at virtually any time. IT can also be shared, of course, as a wonderful form of male bonding.

In truth, we have entered a period in the story of humanity where it is smart and timely to actively resist certain cultural pressures. For example, the assumption that everyone must couple-up, become partnered, in order to achieve happiness and value in the eyes of others. There are many different ways to have a happy and fully rewarding life.

Any traditional religious belief or practice that adds meaning, or cultural or ethnic flavor to your life is fine and it’s nobody’s business, except that specifically anti-pleasure beliefs must be questioned and discarded as the blatant and destructive control mechanisms they are.

No reasonable, decent person would suggest that you are evil for preferring masturbation to religion, and most likely more and more men in today’s world will agree with you.

The Bate Master - Bruce P. GretherBRUCE P. GRETHER is the “BateMaster”. Mr. Grether’s lifelong love of penises and masturbation has led him to achieve a level of mastery and understanding of masturbation that is at once unique and extremely rare. He is renowned for both his ability to achieve seemingly endless states of prolonged and intense masturbatory pleasure as well as his skill in passing this knowledge on to his students. Mr. Grether has made it his life’s mission to encourage men to take their practice of masturbation to new levels of personal enrichment and self-discovery.

Mr. Grether is a globally recognized masturbation activist, an accomplished masturbation coach, and a tireless facilitator of masturbation workshops. In 2001 he coined the now popular term “Mindful Masturbation”. He is the author of a best-selling book, The Secret of the Golden Phallus, plus the erotic fantasy novels

The Moontusk Chronicles. His website can be found at

A note from The Batemaster: I’m honored that the guys at Bateworld have asked me to respond to some questions from male masturbators around the world every week.

Always check with your doctor about any issues you might be experiencing with your sexual organs. Prompt diagnosis and treatment are important. This article’s purpose is to inform and entertain readers and is not a substitute for medical advice or treatment.<

13 replies
  1. Martin
    Martin says:

    HI. I’m a religious bator, Teology graduated and Catholic religion teacher here in Spain and must to say that I agree completely with you, master Bruce. Enjoy the life and make it enjoy to others!

    • Bruce P. Grether
      Bruce P. Grether says:

      I know many religious masturbators now who consider masturbation a direct path to awareness of God–something many traditional religious people might object to. However, I do understand that!

  2. doggyboner
    doggyboner says:

    As the host of a Christian Masturbators group on BateWorld, I’d like to say this article is spot on in every way. Even in Christianity, so much of the sex-negativity was add ons in the centuries after its founding. Much more honest readings of scripture and religious history agrees with this statement by Mr. Grether, “So long as you behave responsibly, and do not harm anyone in the process, all erotic enjoyment can be considered good, healthy and psychologically beneficial.” I agree with that statement too as the way God has made us. Nor do I judge those who have been opted out of religion altogether for very valid reasons. Blessings and bate on!

    • Bruce P. Grether
      Bruce P. Grether says:

      As you know, I’m sure, as far as we can tell Jesus himself said absolutely nothing about sexuality, except that adultery was not a good idea, and that if you sin in your mind, it’s the same as sinning. No mention of homosexuality or masturbation at all. Even the Old Testament passages people cite in those regards as largely open to interpretation. Jesus was concerned to point to a better way than retribution, which is to act lovingly, in face a radical form of love and forgiveness, as much as possible.

      • Doggyboner
        Doggyboner says:

        Even the adultey passage, which is used to harass young men in Sunday School who become aroused looking at sexy women and men, is misinterpreted. The word for lust is actually “covet” and refers to desiring to steal another man’s property. Women were regarded as property in those days.

  3. fullmoonma
    fullmoonma says:

    I’d also distinguish between religion and spiritual practice. Religions are highly organized and codified. Spiritual practices can be highly individual. My spiritual practice is masturbation!

  4. Robwanker
    Robwanker says:

    Thank you Bruce for a thoughtful post, that is careful to show different sides to this subject. I am a believer in the Christian tradition, and now experience Spiritual communion while masturbating. I just wanted to reach out to the brother who asked the question and his use of the strong word ‘Evil’. Don’t of course know his situation, but it is very sad when people have been fed this dualistic view of masturbation. There are brothers on here who would be happy to chat , explore the topic, bate with him ,and pray with him. Thanks again, Rob

    • Bruce P. Grether
      Bruce P. Grether says:

      Thank You for your thoughtful reply. I encounter many men of various religious backgrounds, and no religion at all, who find masturbation spiritually powerful and profound. — BPG

  5. Phil
    Phil says:

    I have empathy for anyone struggling with this kind of issue,
    That said, to anyone who suffers any shame– it’s really critical to detach religion. This is such a negative and pervasive undercurrent… particularly in the US where there is a strong puritanical culture, where any kind of pleasure is seen as negative. Just remember, this is not a universal truth– it’s a distortion of reality.
    Love yourself.. respect your body and honor your own desire. Doing so does not go against any God or any common good– it’s simply being respectful to yourself as a human being.


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